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Buyer Beware: “” Certificates for Kosher Restaurants

“Every relationship is just so tenuous and precarious.” – Larry David … same applies to most businesses.

I purchased 2 certificates (discounts) to a Kosher restaurant in my area (at the recommendation of back in January) . It’s the only kosher restaurant in my area that is offering certificates on this website.

The restaurant decided to leave the program and in an email I received from the website, I can now use my credit for other restaurants participating on

Problem is, I basically cannot use this credit, as no kosher restaurant near me is participating, and I am asking the website for a simple refund. (We’re talking about ~$4 per certificate – with a value of $25 per certificate at the restaurant). While there are kosher restaurants on the site, they are not close to where I live, and I am not interested in shlepping to these places.

The irony is that certificates “do not expire”. That’s their tagline. Obviously they’d expire if the restaurant were to shut down, and I’d expect that they’d issue credit in that scenario (although being stuck with that credit isn’t too thrilling as a kosher consumer). But in this case, the restaurant chose to leave their agreement with the website. All of a sudden, my certificate (to an existing restaurant), expired. Whose problem is this? The company issuing the certificate or the customer?

On the phone with customer service, they first refused to give me a refund and offered me more credit (they really don’t understand what keeping Kosher is). They claimed that according to their terms, they do not issue credit. However, these same terms also mention that “Restaurant-Specific Certificates do not expire.” There is no mention of restaurants refusing to accept their “no expiration” certificates. This “do not expire” jargon is a marketing gimmick, because clearly they do, and does not stand behind it.

They then eventually agreed to refund me for one of the two certificates, but not the 2nd.

After spending a total of 26 minutes on the phone with them (majority of which were on hold) they reluctantly decided to give me the refund on both. (I’m still awaiting confirmation via email that my refund is being processed. If it does not get processed in the next day, I’ll likely need to call back and waste more of their and my time, and possibly call American Express to request a refund).


2 MAJOR things wrong here:

  1. That their customer service is so backward that they were fighting with me over a relatively small amount of money shows major chutzpah and a lack of really wanting to properly service their customers. They caved in the end because I was pushy and pissed. (Although there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with customer service, I never recommend screaming or raising your voice, that will not get you anywhere. I say that as both a consumer and as a former customer service rep ages ago.)
  2. That the company is definitely paying more in staff hours (both the customer service rep and her manager) to deal with my complaint than to issue me a refund is just mismanagement of company funds.

Lessons learned here:

  1. Kosher buyer beware when purchasing certificates for kosher restaurants.
  2. Don’t assume “they certificates never expire”, use them quickly.
  3. If you end up needing a refund, prepare to spend some time and energy on the phone with them.
  4. In case they do not refund you, you can always go to your credit card company to request a refund. In this matter, I always recommend using an AMEX card as they are the best at handling these sorts of disputes.

While significantly more expensive, if you’re looking for kosher restaurant deals on demand, check out (run by Great Kosher Restaurants magazine) where the deals are not as amazing, but I do trust them and have used them recently.

Would love to hear your thoughts here. Please comment below.


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UPDATE 3/13/13 @ 6pm:’s social media team has reached out on Twitter quickly, apologizing for what I had to deal with. At least one part of customer service is working.

About the author

Dani Klein

Dani Klein founded YeahThatsKosher in 2008 as a global kosher restaurant & travel resource for the Jewish community.

He is passionate about traveling the world, good kosher food / restaurants, social media & the web, technology, hiking, strategy games, and spending time with his friends & family.


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  • My mother bought one for $100 off a $200 meal at a Kosher restaurant on Queens Blvd. They refused to honor it b/c we ‘only’ ordered in the $200 range worth of food. We brought everyone there for a birthday dinner for my grandfather, and all left on principal. The waiter apologized, saying, ‘You didn’t think we’d really give 50% off a bill did you?” Um, that is the point of selling a voucher like that. BTW my mom did call 2 weeks before we went to confirm they still took the vouchers, but they claimed it was one week prior they stopped. Buy at your own risk.

  • this cracks me up…

    2 MAJOR things wrong here:

    You are so backward that you were fighting with them over a relatively small amount of money shows major chutzpah and a lack of really wanting to properly follow ToS. You caved in the end because, despite being a pushy and pissed Jewish NYer, they did offer me $4.

    That your time is definitely worth more that $4 per 26 minutes to deal with your complaint is just mismanagement of your time.

    • Ricky –

      1) I’m glad you were amused at corporations taking advantage of its customers.

      2) I’m able to multitask while waiting on hold. Cost me nothing extra. On their end, they had a customer service agent AND a manager discuss my situation. Their business isn’t set up to help the customer, but rather to retain revenue at all costs, even if it hurts profits.

      3) Re: ToS. There is nothing in their ToS that discusses what happens when a restaurant decides not to honor a certificate anymore. That is a major flaw in their system which they do not address. Their marketing of “never expires” is clearly false and flawed.

      4) If I really did not follow their ToS, why would they eventually issue me a refund? Either do or don’t. At the end of the day, they knew they were wrong.

  • Such a mess! I had no idea about this problem. I would be going nuts on the phone with them. You are a patient man!

  • Happened to us too. We have “credit” at other restaurants, should kosher ones still exist. If I can, I will use it, but i will never buy another certificate again.